How many sindhis in spain

Great blog!! My first thought, as I started reading it, was that the author. Sind finds a mention in our national anthem as well. Extremely informative article Let me add to it if dawn sensor board, kindly allow No wonder, ancient trading cities Mohan-jodaro and Harappa, were constructed in Sindh.

Whole Indus valley civilization that is the foundation of today's Hinduism was originated in Sindh, on the banks of Indus river. Even after Islamic evolution in Arabia that blocked the silk-route, Sindh was successful in retaining its status of busiest trading centre and was among most prosperous regions of the world.

This was the reason Sindh was attacked and looted again and again and finally taken over by Islamic caliphate. But, they allowed Sindhis to continue with their business as it was major source of income for them. It is only after creation of Pakistan, these generational traders were kicked out of their homeland and rest is history.

In India, a Sindhi and a successful trader are synonyms, even today. A very well written article. As an Indian reader I will have to take your word on the stereotype of Sindhis in Pakistan. But as far as the stereotypes in India goes, you've got it absolutely correct. You will find a lot of Sindhis in Mumbai and they are regarded as the real estate kinds there with the best example being Hiranadani Group.

In India the main business communities are- Marwaris, Gujaratis the community to which Md. Sindhis are now at the core of the India Inc. They have a strong presence in Mumbai which is the financial capital of the country like Karachi is Pakistan's and dominate various sectors. And very honestly I thought that Sindhis had the same pull in Pakistan as Karachi is the financial hub of Pakistan. I was aware of the fact that a large number of businesses houses in Pakistan are run by Muhajirs or Muslims who migrated from the present regions of North and Central North India but most of us here still thought that it were the Sindhis ran mahority of the business in Pakistan and formed the backbone of its professional service class.

First of all, Thank you Dawn for even publishing this, and many thanks to Mr. Mehdi for even writing this! I may be biased because I'm a Sindhi Hindu , but I think is a great article about a great people who suffered tremendously during partition. That said, there are Hindu Sindhis all over and they've lived happily in their adopted homelands and done well.

Mehdi - if you're ever in California, please do reach out. You're welcome to visit my Hindu Sindhi home. Pardeep kumar. Well said. The partition choked the Sind right in the middle. Migration of Sindhi Hindus made the Sind culturally and economically barren. Another comment. Most of the Sindhis in India are still very nostalgic about their homeland.

The older generation has taught the younger generation to think very fondly of Sindhi. If ever the relationship between India and Pakistan improve and they become friends and brother for good, rest of Pakistan will stunned by the amount of investments they shall see flowing from the Sindhis in India to Sindh.

May that Golden Day come soon :. Sir, exception work!! Karan: u forgot Ambani India's richest man is a Sindhi and who can forget Advani!! So after odd years u lament or are happy? Actually India has been blessed by 2 communites the most Parsis and Sindhis who grew rich and by that making India richer. Talk of any industrial revolution and the names are all Parsis, talk of trading and financial revolution and Sindhis are standing tall along with Marwaris.

But the greatest if at all is Political than its Advani of BJP, from 2 seats to power in barely 10 years or so, u cant beat it. Sindhis have never lost their homeland and neither have Parsis, India is their homeland. Good article. Role of Sindi Hindus has been very significant in development of Sind specially in the field of education and trade. The refugees from Sindh that came to India were super businessmen.

A lot of them used India as a transit point and dispersed themselves world wide. Pakistan's loss was India's gain. Sir, excellent analysis. Interesting analysis. I haven't met any Sindhi as yet, but the general perception on our side is as author describes. A similar observation can perhaps also be made for UP and Bihar though it would be other way round- A predominantly Muslim middle class migrating out of India. A class based analysis of Partition is long overdue.

More research is needed to bust the stereotypes. Arif Domki. Great analysis by the writer. Its true that Sindhis always preferred to stay at their birthplaces rather moving to other places even within their own province. But things have now changed greatly due to economic reasons. A great number of Sindhi's have now moved to Karachi and other big cities of Sindh to find better job opportunities and businesses.

Sindhis now can be found in big numbers especially in government related jobs. The ratio is now increasing in private jobs as well and even Sindhi doctors are replacing a big number of doctors in Karachi, Hyderabad, Sukkur etc.

Its true that majority of Sindhi speaking Muslim live in abject poverty even today. The Hindu Sindhi minority community is even well off today in rural and small cities of Sindh. They control almost all agriculture related businesses in towns of Sindh, lending money to farmers and Zamindars big landholders of rural Sindh.

The Hindu Sindhis are well off and they get their children educated from from good private schools and colleges and you can imagine that majority of quota of seats in government universities and colleges in Sindh are captured by Sindhi Hindus male and female. A great number of Sindhi Muslims in rural Sindh live poor lives and earn their livelihood mainly by working as peasants of big landlords. The feudal culture of rural Sindh can be blamed for woes of Muslim Sindhis and this culture doesn't seem to change in foreseeable future.

Salim Langda. While on page 1 of the article, I was shaking my head and saying the Sindhi Stereotype is not right, it is not possible, the author has lost his mind. I personally had a lot of Sindhi friends, and am always in awe of how they recovered their lost wealth after partition. Being a Bombayite, I have seen first hand Sindhi entrepreneurship and was always of the opinion that Pakistan is lucky to have such a big Sindh province.

This article breaks my prototype of that typical persisting Sindhi. You can make a beginning by paying your respects to king dahir,who fought for safeguarding his country and died in battle. These Jhulelals are one of the shrewd businessmen I have seen. I have yet to see a Sindhi beggar in any part of India. There may be a few of them but generally Sindhis in India are enterprising,self employed and well to do.

Imran Siddiqui. Pankaj: Please don't distort history. Hindus in Sindh were not kicked out but they made a choice of migrating to India.

That was the most peaceful migration in the history of partition. The Punjab and Bengal borders witnessed the horrors of partition but Sindh border was very safe. Today Muslims in Gujrat rue that opportunity as they faced state sponsored terrorism of Modi. Now it would be inetersting to know what were the reasons for this Sindhi middle class to migrate to India after partition. We can all pretty much guess but it would be great if someone from that section of population in the comments section would shed light on it.

Have you not seen what has happened to Muslims in Gujrat? Getting killed by your own state is worst than getting killed by the Talibans. They were part of the middle class but now they are poor. Their shops and businesses were targetted. To rub the salt in, Modi will become the PM of India. Taher Mehdi, It would be good if you do a similar study of the Indian Muslims who migrated to Pakistan and their role in prosperity of Karachi alongside their own prosperity.

Or that of the Parsis in Pakistan and India who, on the average, are many times more prosperous than the average Irani. It is not about the class of the immigrants, but about the instincts to survive of people who had the guts to take the big step in the first place!

A serious academic study would be incomplete without comparing the above. Otherwise, this remains just an opinion. This is exactly the issue with North Indian Muslims also. The middle class migrated to Pakistan and the left the poorest behind.

Their representation in areas such as education, govt, trade, business dropped to near zero. There are jobs reserved for them in states like UP and Bihar. Aug 16, am. Today one of them is a teacher, one is a big industrialist, 1 a businessman in Spain and 1 is a big businessman in Bangkok Back in my home city, they dominate small business As they say in my home city nobody can beat a Sindhi in small business Manish Rohera.

As an Indian Sindhi myself i was surprised to see that the Pakistani counterparts are docile while most of us are thought to be shrewd,cunning businessmen of prowess compared to Gujaratis and Marwaris as someone pointed out even I thought Karachi was financial capital because of natives quite surprised to know that the immigrants are the reason behind it's success quite informative article i must say. I have been reading Dawn online for almost 12 or more years now and it never occurred to me in any of the blogs that Pakistani Sindhis are stereotyped as inward looking and financially not sound.

This article is really surprising. Even in the IT, some of the most successful sales people are ethnic Sindhis. Also, I'm not too sure if the success of Indian Sindhis is because some good people migrated from Pakistan. I think, just like Marwaris, they have innate ability to understand and compete in a business, which they probably got imbibed through generations of practicing the craft.

Having said that, it's really puzzling and hard to digest why Pakistani Sindhis are inward looking. I was shocked to know that he is sindhi Nice article. Karan: Sindh was an integral part of undivided India on a cultural basis such that it did not wanted to be a part of Pakistan, instead integrate with India.

It is specifically mentioned as a proudt part of india in the indian national anthem written by the great bengali scholar Sir Rabindranath Tagore. Very Interesting and thought provoking. Great observation, brilliant analysis..

Dr Gul Metlo. Sindhis live in over countries. Where they have their presence in a well organised manner. There are over diaspora Sindhi community organisation around the globe. Due to advent of information technology the people of same ethnic background are networking together.

For last two decades there has been a phenomenal surge of Pakistani Sindhi immigrants in western world and Middle East. Mainly they are professionals. Now the global Sindhi community is looking back to their roots in their homeland. Any event in Sindh is deeply followed by all the Sindhis around the globe. Sindhis are now truly a global community. Much respected wherever they happen to live. This is one of the best analysis I have come across. It be great to see more such cross border studies that might help the two nations to correct our defects and achieve prosperity.

With love from India! I am born and brought up in Mumbai Bombay , I have seen and experienced different picture of Sindhis in Mumbai. All the wrong practices were started by them in late sixties in Mumbai and they applied by other communities. They started imitation or fake jewelry, cloth A made in Ulhasnagar. Most of them came to India before partition since they were not at all Patriotic like Sikh or Panjabis ,on the contrary they were selfish and had business mind.

We used to call them " mithi chhuri", since they used to talk in very nice way ,We used to tell them. What an article!!

I love reading dawn for its measured views and thought provoking material. I am no expert and the authors analysis is truly great. However another reason for the enterpreunial skills of indian Sindhis could be the fire in the belly because they were displaced.

They had to struggle for acquiring a home even while other regions were comparatively better off. Normally the fear of ending back on streets is a great motivator to give it your best and stretch ones limits. SherePunjab Singh SherGill. I have met Sindhi Hindus in Singapore and Indonesia also. In my law college our teacher of Contract Law was a Sindhi Mr.

He used to teach it perfect a subject which otherwise was bore to study. They are hardworking. They believe in Sikh gurus as much as in Hindu dieties. For his analysis I want to share my experience. Shikarpur in interior Sindh, was adopted hometown by my family.

I spent my school years there. That gave me a chance to know Sindhis up and close. I found them to be intellectually civilized and proud people. Question still remains why they couldn't compete with pre-partition middle class of Hindo Sindhis. I don't think this was a case of their docility, rather a case of poverty rut. Sindhis generously welcomed Urdu-speaking who were uprooted from their geographical territory leaving behind everything they ever possessed, According to Sindh minister Zulfiqar Mirza, Mohajirs came "Bhookey Nangay" no food and no clothes but they became the engine to Sindh economy.

Study present Hydrabad, Nawabshah, Sukker and you will find Sindhis to be equal part of emerging middle class. In resource trapped Pakistan small province are lagging behind for obvious reason. It takes time for the nation to reach prosperity.

The desire for Urdu-speaking to carve their ethic identity is logical, like any other ethnic group. Their divide is not violent, I would refer it as teething pain. Bharat Patel. Mainly the hindu sindhis came to India. They have now made Gujarat their homeland. I have yet to know a sindhi man who has not got millions in his bank account. They are very important to us, as an inclusive society. There are some Muslim sindhis in India as well.

And yes they have some incredible attributes, just as every community in India. The difference is really cultural - not genetic. On one side of his shop the neighbor announced ' Cheapest shop in Ahmadabad. On the other side they put up a board -none cheaper then us.

Even during the times of tension between the two countries, Sindhis over in India are regarded by many in a "folksy" way of course, not to be taken too literally as the "Good Pakistanis"!!

Very Well Written indeed! If you take out the very trunk of the tree to save its branches and roots what will happen? Sindh is classic example of this foolishness! The trunk is still alive and healthy and if provided opportunity it is still willing to join with its roots and branches.

When this day come when the tree named Sindh will flourish again? After Pakistan Sindhis refugees were the poorest of the poor but what differentiated this community was there willingness for exterme hardwork and their belief in education. Sindis are a very hard working and a proud community. There are numerous examples of Sindi businesses and charity but I have never come across a Sindi beggar. Kashmiri Pandits and Sindi Hindus are two communities which have been totally uprooted from their homelands.

Kashmir is in India so still limps along. Had it been in Pakistan it would have been similar to Swat or Sindh. In India sindhi's are known as business men and are very good at trading. They have equal opportunity to do business as any other community in India.

They came to India with almost no money and capital, but did good for their own families and now you will rarely find a poor Sindhi family in India. If the pakistani Sindhi's have not done well, it basically is due to the structure of pakistani society which treats different communities in different manner. I am sure that if given equal opportunity, the sindhi community in Pakistan will also develop well. Excellent Analysis Indeed! Now there is a need for synthesis.

And synthesis will happen if we deal with alien ideologies in right way. When Islam came to Persia, same thing happened. Indian Parsis are much more entrepreneurial and education oriented. Alien ideologies can be easily imposed on the elite who have lot to lose in fighting them. The elite then makes the people who work for them succumb to these alien ideologies. You forgot to mention sindhis of Nigeria. Church gate group is owned by Sindhis.

Mukesh Luhano. There is one point missing in this article. So it could be concluded that there are dissimilarities between Muslim Sindhis and Hindu Sindhis; it has nothing to do with Indian or Pakistani Sindhis. I am myself a Hindu Sindhi from Pakistan. Umesh Bhawalkar. I admit that I have not come across a Sindhi who is not affluent. In India, you find this community centered in in Ulhasnagar town of Thane district, Kutch district of Gujarat state.

In Bollywood they are big financiers of Industry post 70's. You will also find this community in good numbers, successful in business, in West African franc zone countries viz.

Thanks for Touching this subject. Regds Umesh. Khalid Mahessar. Sindhis who have migrated especially to West are the real brains of Sindhi community and majority of them are sucessful entrepreneurs and professionals, living in those countries with respect, peace and harmony. What they owe to montherland, is that they should contribute in the education and economic development of Sindhi youth back at home, who without these opportunities are exposed to Criminal gangs or mafias.

For Indians, Sindhi means a man with lot of money Most of them are businessmen mostly trading , lawyers or stock brokers. Upon partition in , many remaining Hindu Sindhi emigrated to India, while Urdu-speaking Indian Muslims, called Mohajirs, took their place, concentrating in urban areas in the Sindhi province.

Influxes of Punjabis from Pakistan's overcrowded northeast, Baluchis from the underdeveloped west, and Afghan and Pakistani Pashtuns from the northern territories have also crowded into Sindh, threatening Sindhi control of their own region.

Unlike other non-Punjabi groups, Sindhis have led two national governments, under Z. The execution of Z. Bhutto in by the Punjabi general Ziaul Haq further exacerbated tension between the two ethnic groups and led to a political situation that has counter-posed Sindhi-led civilian movements against a Punjabi-led military establishment for control of the Pakistan government bureaucracy. The corruption trials of Benazir Bhutto and her husband, instigated by the Punjabi prime minister Nawaz Sharif in the s, have led to further disintegration of ethnic relations; in , the registration of cases involving Ms.

Benazir Bhutto continued to complicate relations. Sharif also began mass arrests of Sindh politicians in , a situation that ended only with the military coup of Musharraf. Sindhi protest has closely mirrored the rise and fall of PPP-led governments, peaking during times of military i. While the Musharraf coup was initially welcomed by opposition groups, including Sindhi political parties, those groups quickly became disillusioned by Musharraf's promises to restore democracy.

Some examples of protest include a protest against the building of a canal in the Sindh province and a hunger strike against the closures of a dozen Sindhi newspapers. Dharamdas R. Lachhiram Matta opened two high schools, one at Chembur and another at Ghatkopar. Advani as Principal. Later on he became vice-chancellor of Bombay University.

Many more such colleges were opened in Ulhasnagar and other parts of Bombay. Sindhis have contributed in the field of medicine too. Sindhi Hindus, even in pre-partition days used to seek new territories worldwide. Prominent among overseas Sindhis, popularly known as Sindhwarkis are Hari N.

Harilila, K. Sital, Gopaldas Mahbubani, Gian T. Vachhani, Larry Parmanand, L. Lulla, Uttam D. Chotirmal, Parmanand T. Balani, Khubchand L. The list is just indicative and it should not be construed as exhaustive. In India too, Sindhis have succeeded in establishing themselves in different fields of business, eg.

In Sindh, Pakistan, Sindhi Muslims also proved their mettle. In Pakistan, Lahore is regarded as centre of politics and culture. While in Sindh, Larkana has proved to be more than a match to Lahore.

It has provided many leaders to not only Sindh, but Pakistan too. Mohenjo daro, the modern name for the site, has been variously interpreted as "Mound of the Dead Men" in Sindhi.

Rajesh Rao is fascinated by "the mother of all crossword puzzles how to decipher the year-old Indus script. He's enlisting modern computation to try to read this lost language, the key to understanding this ancient civilization.

Sindhis are generally peace loving people who have integrated well around the world in their country of choice. Through their food, religion, penchant for life they maintain their traditions while also looking to the future. You will often find a Sindhi in the most random of places! Have you seen the intricate Rilli designs or mirrorwork shisho on garments on the Catwalk?

Or in the large London Museums?